UPDATE: Gingrich 2nd in Gwinnett GOP Straw Poll; Paul Wins
In Suwanee, Gingrich calls Georgia crucial to his election hopes.
Updated Feb. 19, 2012
Calling President Obama the "most dangerous president in modern American history," Newt Gingrich made bold statements on the current administration and his presidential plans in a speech Saturday in Suwanee. The talk followed an earlier Gingrich rally Saturday in Forsyth County.
The former U.S. House speaker was introduced to the crowd of about 400 people at Collins Hill High by Atlanta-based businessman Herman Cain, who ended his presidential campaign in December and recently threw his support behind Gingrich.
Attacking Obama on several fronts, Gingrich said the president "refuses to tell the truth about people who want to hurt us." He said Obama's approach to national defense "is the most destructive unilateral disarmament I've ever seen."
Gingrich's speech followed a meeting of the Gwinnett County Republican Party elsewhere at the school. At that meeting, Ron Paul finished ahead of Gingrich in a straw poll.
Paul collected 115 votes to Gingrich's 73. Finishing third was former Pennsylvania senator Rick Santorum with 60 votes. Mitt Romney, currently the overall delegate leader among GOP candidates, got 25 votes.
State Rep. Buzz Brockway was among those wearing a Santorum sticker at the GOP meeting. Brockway said, "I don't dislike (Gingrich). ... At this point, the race is wide open, so I'm going to vote for the candidate with the best chance to win."
U.S. Rep Rob Woodall, who represents Suwanee and parts of Gwinnett in Congress, attended Saturday's GOP meeting. He has not decided on who to support, noting that his backing hinges on which candidate supports the Fair Tax.
Gingrich talked of the importance of the Georgia primary on March 6 (Super Tuesday), when the state's 73 delegates will be up for grabs. After the speech, he called his former home state a "springboard" for possible success in such states as Texas and California.
"I need your help," Gingrich told the crowd, which twice gave him a standing ovation.
Tim Cavanaugh
12:12 pm on Saturday, February 18, 2012
The reason that Ron Paul never goes down in the polls is that he’s not “convincing” people in the everyday sense that he’s right on whatever issue. He’s activating human souls, lighting spiritual fires one by one speaking about freedom. Once a soul gets activated, and the man realizes that he IS free no matter what people do to him or tell him, there is no turning back.
Yet, we cannot expect every man woman and child to understand or get excited about the message of liberty. In fact, most just can’t handle it. Being truly free is as terrifying as it is electrifying.
Not everyone can handle the message of freedom. It’s too frightening for some people, and some are just too enslaved. Those are the people that despise Ron Paul, the same types who rebelled against Moses in the desert and attempted to go back to Egypt. Freedom is too much for them and they can’t handle the Divine gift. They want and need someone to control them. Their souls have been too battered by slavery, taxation, and wars...........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUXNfk4MMlI
Jesse Callihan
1:14 pm on Monday, February 20, 2012
Ron Paul is the extreme opposite of Obama and we don't need that in the White House! Romney says what he thinks everyone wants to hear just like Obama did when he ran. Santorum is good but lacks the experience. Gingrich has a lot of baggage but he is the only one that can go head to head with Obama in debates and sway people to vote Republican. Just look after the debates and you will see that Gingrich has just about won them all and now nobody wants to debate with him. Why is that? We don't need another experiment in the White House with non-qualified Presidential Candidate. Are we prepared to put a timid President in the White House that wants to bring all our troops home from around the world which leaves us who travel around the world vulnerable. Wake up Georgians, the only real candidate that has bold ideas that will change all the wrongs that this administration has done is Newt Gingrich!!!!
John St Croix
1:21 pm on Saturday, February 18, 2012
Fake tea parties are pushing establishment candidates. Don't let this happen! http://www.hillsdale.net/news/x248713087/TEA-Party-prepare-for-upcoming-straw-poll
Ryan A.
2:28 pm on Saturday, February 18, 2012
This is false and misleading and should be removed immediately from this piece:"Mitt Romney, currently the overall delegate leader among GOP candidates"
Jonathan Cribbs
3:36 pm on Saturday, February 18, 2012
Not according to The Wall Street Journal's estimates (and a number of other sources): http://projects.wsj.com/campaign2012/delegates
Or this: http://elections.nytimes.com/2012/primaries/delegates
Charlie
6:40 pm on Saturday, February 18, 2012
I think you're wrong, but I think it's irrelevant before Super-Tuesday, at least this election cycle. It could end up being Romney or Santorum... or if proof that Romney is a polygamist comes out the same day proof Santorum is a Nazi, it might be Gingrich. Or, God answers the prayers of the young with supernatural intervention, it could be Paul, but that's the only way.
Franklin
3:26 pm on Sunday, February 19, 2012
@Jonathan... That's where the "misleading" part comes in. As you said but the article did not, they are "estimates". If you read the methodology listed at the WSJ and the NYT and compare that to how delegates are actually selected (which differs significantly from state to state), it is very misleading. For instance, look at CNN estimates: http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/primaries.html
But any journalist knows that, as with 2004 and 2008, the most accurate delegate estimates -- because they're based on the actual rules of each state's contest -- can be found at thegreenpapers.com -- http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P12/
Finally, when you read the headline (probably the editor's choice) and the content of the article, it's easy to see why readers would consider the article misleading. The winner of the poll is barely mentioned and, Newt, the guy that has no chance of getting the nomination without a brokered convention (because he is not even on the ballot in his home state) is the focal point of this article.
Because a Ron Paul headline would definitely get more hits (that's what Patch wants, right?), you can't blame readers for assuming the reason the article and headline were written in they way the were.
Franklin
3:51 pm on Sunday, February 19, 2012
For more on the delegate confusion, see the Rachel Maddow Show (MSNBC) from 2/10/2012: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9x28_I9oIVg
arhtur s
3:53 pm on Saturday, February 18, 2012
They are showing beauty contest=delegates. Doesn't work that way.
In caucus states delegates are not bound by their states votes. Only in winner take all states are the delegates required to vote for the winner of the popular/beauty vote.
WSJ knows this. So does NYT. But they have an agenda and you WILL follow it.
XXX XXXX for president. (this endorsement approved by the MSM).
Jonathan Cribbs
4:21 pm on Saturday, February 18, 2012
You should check out the methodology explanations in both trackers.
KC Ted
1:01 pm on Sunday, February 19, 2012
Also, if it goes to a brokered convention ALL of the delegates will be unbound and can vote how they please. If the Dr Paul momentum continues to increase (see his Washington State rallys,,, like a rock star) he could actually do very well in all states.
If we keep voting for more of the same that we have always been getting, we will always keep getting more of the same.
Henry Batten
4:14 pm on Saturday, February 18, 2012
Newt is the most dangerous one out there!
Charlie
6:37 pm on Saturday, February 18, 2012
Mmmmm... No. He's not dangerous because he's not going to win nomination. He he had a chance of doing so, he'd be dangerous.
MR U.S.A
12:40 pm on Monday, February 20, 2012
u are out of touch if anything Newt will shake up the white house and of course clean up Obama's mess im sure that is what people like u don't want you are still waiting 4 the lies about change that Obama promised well we all see just what he meant about change yes change 4 the worse is more like it he has accomplished that all by him self .......nothing but lie's and corruption is what this president is all about he is not a good leader he is not a good president he will take us down a path of destruction and only than people like u will realize what a mistake u have made to believe in a man with bad intentions
Ken Haines
6:35 pm on Saturday, February 18, 2012
I guess I would have to agree with Newt on this one. Obama is the most dangerous president we've had. Just ask Osama Bin Laden.
Taking out all the top Al Qaeda leaders is a destructive unilateral disarmament. Most Americans, I think, would applaud that. It makes you wonder what side Newt is actually on.
Charlie
6:36 pm on Saturday, February 18, 2012
LOL, good one Ken! :)
Dora Glasberg
8:36 pm on Saturday, February 18, 2012
Quaddifi ain't to thrilled either.
Doug Heckman
2:20 pm on Sunday, February 19, 2012
I agree! You won't hear this one at a GOP debate.......
MR U.S.A
12:54 pm on Monday, February 20, 2012
do u have any other news u want to share about Obama ....how about everything else that he has done how about our tax dollars he has spent with his lobbyist friends how about his Obama care how about all the dirty deals he has made maybe u like being controlled by government millions of Americans want government out of our lives he has put this country at a tipping point and he needs to get lost
Jesse Callihan
1:03 pm on Thursday, March 1, 2012
That success belongs to our military and our intelligence people. Obama had no choice in the decision. He didn't want to be like Clinton who passed on the opportunity to take out Bin Laden. I think he also agreed because of politics and not because it was the right thing to do.
Charlie
6:35 pm on Saturday, February 18, 2012
Obama's dangerous to what? Your dangerous agenda, and the dangerous agenda of the radical right, because he's too moderate?
Forever Young
8:12 pm on Saturday, February 18, 2012
Let's ace it people...The Democrats live in the 21st Century dealing with problems as they actually are and not trying to convince the public of threats that don't exist. Jobs problem? Ask the democrats. Osama problem? Ask a democrat? WW2 problem? Ask a democrat. Elderly health insurance problem? Ask a democrat. If you want to have rich people rule you or the military keep you afraid, or relIgious zealots tell you what to think...vote GOP.
John
8:22 pm on Saturday, February 18, 2012
400 People there to see the Newt? Not so sure about that. Anyway.. Here is a link showing the Gwinnett County Mass Meeting straw poll results being read. http://youtu.be/vvCgeLt8Bcc
Tim Cav No truer words were ever written! The Sheeple need to realize that these Corrupt Connected Establishment Candidates are all the same. How they don't understand what Paul says is for the Individual American amazes me. The other candidates are for Big Gov't. Neo-Cons or Marxist Agenda. Take a few mins and listen to what Ron Paul is really saying. Ignore Foxtards News. Cnn for that matter too.
Huge Bullbone
8:22 pm on Saturday, February 18, 2012
Newt is a loose cannon blabber mouth. He is on his home turf and can fan the flames of race hatred against President Obama. Bigotry and idiocy inherited from ancestors who were England's worst criminals and vagabonds, and backwards thinking sentiment are also at work here. Old Uncle Tom Herman Cain had better not get caught looking at "their" woman up there in Suwanee. Closing 300 pizza joints and putting 3,000 people out of work overnight to prove how good a businessman you are won't matter to those folks in Forsyth County. It is what it is, Mr. Her Man Cain. Grinning and shuffling for money is your game and we know it. Any -- repeat -- ANY candidate for statewide political office who thinks as highly of Black people as they think of others OR who is Black and does not HATE and DISPISE his own kind and does not blame them en mass for everything bad that has EVER happened to them will definitely not fare well in statewide politics in Georgia. That's a fact -- ask Wyche Fowler, Max Cleland, Roy Barnes, and Thurbert Baker, and many many others. Courageous and fair-minded candidates who are NOT racist fear mongerers would not act and speak ike Newt who is lazy and resorts to the old adage: "When in Georgia, tell those antebellum minded Crackers what they think they want to hear" not what they actually NEED to hear. Speaking of foolishness. Fat mouth Newt takes the cake.
John Cook
12:42 pm on Sunday, February 19, 2012
You should be capable of discussing politics without using such racially loaded phrases regarding a black man: "Uncle Tom" and "his own kind" would not be used of a white man, nor Asian, nor any other race. And "Crackers" is a racially bigoted term for whites.There is no need to use such racially bigoted language.
Dora Glasberg
8:31 pm on Saturday, February 18, 2012
Newt, go home, take yer flying monkey harpy and her jools with ya.
RL
9:56 am on Monday, February 20, 2012
That flying monkey would be Nancy Pelosi and her goons, right?
After all, she and Newt tried to warn us about climate change.
They are buddies.
John
8:36 pm on Saturday, February 18, 2012
It is what it is, Mr. Her Man Cain. Grinning and shuffling for money is your game and we know it. Any -- repeat -- ANY candidate for statewide political office who thinks as highly of Black people as they think of others OR who is Black and does not HATE and DISPISE his own kind and does not blame them en mass for everything bad that has EVER happened to them will definitely not fare well in statewide politics in Georgia. .......WTH does this mean? Are you speaking English?
John Cook
12:37 pm on Sunday, February 19, 2012
You should be capable of discussing politics without using such racially loaded phrases regarding a black man: "Grinning and shuffling" and "his own kind" would not be used of a white man, nor Asian, nor any other race. There is no need to use such racially bigoted language.
RL
9:50 am on Monday, February 20, 2012
The biggest grinner and shuffler lives in the White House.
Carol Jean O'Neil Goodwin
8:47 pm on Saturday, February 18, 2012
The people who are fighting the hardest against Ron Paul are not only the ones who are on welfare, etc but the ones who are attached to the five government depts Ron Paul will dismantle and others who draw hefty salaries from entities he plans to end. Of course the 'establishment' and media types will be looking for employment as well. Ask me if I sympathize. No I do not! They are leeches.
Ms Dangriga
12:07 am on Sunday, February 19, 2012
Newt is a disgrace and so fat and ugly. He will never get the nomination, Americans are not that stupid.
charles l claitty
2:27 am on Sunday, February 19, 2012
Newt we all ready know who the most dangerous official there are, Three thing the republican's love to do. Kill,Steal, and destroy this country.
Billy Lee
5:14 am on Sunday, February 19, 2012
Ron Paul won the poll why isn't part of the headline for this article? Ron Paul is the only candidate what will end these necessary wars and make REAL cuts to help our deficit. Elect anyone else.....America will go bankrupt.
Louis Clerveaux
9:04 am on Sunday, February 19, 2012
I believe that Ron Paul is the only person who really wants to change America back to its real value.
KC Ted
12:55 pm on Sunday, February 19, 2012
Sound money, Stop wars, No US soldiers to be killed in 2013, End The Fed.
Fight to remove Obamacare, Patriot Act and NDAA, Restore individual rights, End the drug war by turning it over to the States.
OMG (Obama Must Go)
Peace and prosperity,, that's just crazy! ;)
RL
9:53 am on Monday, February 20, 2012
Well said, KC Ted.
Many folks on this blog probably cannot understand many of the critical ideas you put forth. The police state will swallow us. But hey, I got my free contraception and spring training just started.
JH
1:47 pm on Sunday, February 19, 2012
This is breaking news? This worthy of its own e-mail?
Steve F Brown
1:52 pm on Sunday, February 19, 2012
It's pretty funny that our President has used so many Republican ideas during his tenure. But the Repubs forget all their past ideas. Funny their God is a guy who had Alzheimers during his presidency according to his son. Seems they are taking after Sir God Reagan. When you have your main money man be a sleazy casino owner who bilks money from the addicted gambling public the question of who is dangerous seems to point right back to you doughboy.
Steve Burns
2:43 pm on Sunday, February 19, 2012
To all, I want to remind everyone of our Terms Of Service. Inappropriate comments will be deleted. http://norcross.patch.com/terms
Chris King
4:02 pm on Sunday, February 19, 2012
Ron Paul is the only real conservative candidate. Santorum is on the extreme right and partially conservative, Gingrich is all over the map, Romney is nowhere and everywhere. He wants the moon just like a spoiled rich kid would. www.sci-burr.com
Charles Ewing
9:35 pm on Sunday, February 19, 2012
Stop funding Israel - we will save big bucks
Jackie Marianne
10:04 pm on Sunday, February 19, 2012
"Newt is a disgrace and so fat and ugly. He will never get the nomination, Americans are not that stupid."? How dare you talk about my lady killer?
Vcobbs
11:32 pm on Sunday, February 19, 2012
The truth is, the reason Republicans are so undecided at this point, we don't really care who our nominee turns out to be. We will march to the polls and vote for any one of them. They all have their baggage, but the least one among them is still head and shoulders far better than what is in our oval office at the moment. For this very reason, I have stopped even following this run-up to the primary. I have already made up my mind. Anyone but obama!
MR U.S.A
1:56 am on Monday, February 20, 2012
i see that many on here who are commenting are die hard Obama fans these people can't see the light of day they are so brain washed after all the dirt this man has done to bring this country down lining his pockets with tax dollars as if it belongs to him he is nothing more than a thief who has gotten over on all who voted 4 him as he played the fools game and this will happen all over again if he is to be elected as our president he has a 50% rating in the poles how sad i can't see anyone other than government and federal workers and unions of course oh and lets not forget the Afro Americans and the many Latinos who have their motives like Afro Americans who will vote 4 him based on color Latinos will vote because they want amnesty for their own this is a joke these people should not vote based on this ........they should vote because they want a better America however that would never be as long as the free bees keep coming their way these people will settle for crumbs and let this great country fall we will all suffer because of the brainless
MR U.S.A
2:19 am on Monday, February 20, 2012
Obama wants his own supper pac that is a joke when he already has the left wing media and they are worse than any supper pac as they are on 24/7 trying to damage republicans in any way they can they can lie without shame how f.......ing sad ...republicans should have a media channel of their own to expose obama and his left wing media whats good 4 one in good 4 all obama's own words... To all the obama followers sell your soul to the devil and we will all pay dearly
MR U.S.A
11:21 am on Monday, February 20, 2012
why in the world would any president want to deal with foreign oil when we have our own oil right here in the untied states ...something very wrong here ..yes you foolish people our president has our best interest at heart gas prices will hit the roof... Taxes won't only go up on people that make 2oo hundred thousand they will go up on every American come 20/13 this president needs to get lost we are going to suffer and their will be more people out of work we will not be able to afford home heating oil or gas for our cars their is no reason 4 this to happen it is only that we have a president that won't do anything to make our lives better he is all about keeping things the way they are life is good 4 him as long as he can add to his bank account yes u need to vote 4 this man and help him accomplish his one goal and that is to make as much money as he can with all his dirty deals and at the cost of every tax payers expense 2 sad makes me sick to know whats coming our way .............
MR U.S.A
12:05 pm on Monday, February 20, 2012
take a look at Maxine waters and you will no how sicking the demarcates in the white house are she should be fired over her despicable remarks ....and her ugly comments ....yes this country will fall with people like this running our country get this garbage out on the side walk were she belongs she should never have a job that only one can dream about she does not deserve it
Steve F Brown
12:17 pm on Monday, February 20, 2012
The reason it doesn't matter how much oil we produce domestically is because it is all sold on the world market. OPEC sets the price of oil not the president. Before you channel your hatred for our president it would be nice if you understood global economics. If you think a different president would change this you are dreaming. If you want to blame someone blame the futures oil traders, they are the main reason for the price increases. Do some research before you spew your uninformed crap.
MR U.S.A
12:21 pm on Monday, February 20, 2012
gas on the way up and electric cars are in only we don't want them as they will be forced on us because we cant afford to pay the high prices at the pump and truth be told these cars wont be cheap also we are not ready 4 electric at this time ....how much money will Obama make with this scam from GM how much longer will we stand by and let this man get away with his lie's .............we are not all fools like he thinks .........stand up 4 what is right and put an end to all this corruption that is going on in the white house starting with Obama
Steve F Brown
12:52 pm on Monday, February 20, 2012
Hey Mr. Eistein there would be no GM if your party had their way. Our president is not making money from GM. I would assess that the scammer is you. The lies you put forth are fairly typical. BTW Newt is the most hated politician in the USA, according to various polls. he won't be cleaning anything up. Our president is very busy cleaning up the huge mess left by the last administration.
charles l claitty
1:39 pm on Monday, February 20, 2012
We love you, Newt! You are helping guarantee a second term for Barack Obama.Are any of these four stooges candidate republicans going to talk about how they plan to solve problems or do they think just bashing the first black president will guarantee a win? Sounds like a real good way to lose the election.Look what Bush and Cheney did for this economy for two terms Their way of belief for this country is to Kill,Steal and destroy. LOL!!!! OBAMA 2012.
Matthew Petre
9:47 am on Tuesday, February 21, 2012
Just another intelligent American proudly procaiming my support for Ron Paul and the message of Liberty in 2012!
Tom Doolittle
5:14 pm on Tuesday, February 21, 2012
Ron Paul also won the DeKalb Straw Poll with 105 votes to 25 (Newt and Romney) and 13 (Santorum)
John
12:32 am on Sunday, February 26, 2012
Ron Paul Rally in Marietta Square Sunday Feb. 26 starts at 1:30