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Fall Officially Begins This Saturday

Fall is here and fall weather is coming...

The official start of the Autumnal Equinox will be this Saturday, at 10:50 a.m. The equinox occurs when the tilt of the axis of the earth is vertical in relation to the sun, the earth is neither tilted toward or away from the sun, with the sun is centered on the earth's equator.

So on Saturday, the day and night will be very close to 12 hours each. Today we had a sunrise of 7:22 and sunset of 7:34, so you can see the days are getting close to 12 hours right now. On the day of the autumnal equinox, the sun rises and sets around 6 a.m. and 6 p.m. (the time varies for several reasons and increases as you go toward the poles) everywhere on earth. Here, it will rise around 7:23 a.m. due to the fact we follow Daylight Savings Time, without it, the sun would be rising at 6:23 a.m. 

If you're a meteorologist, fall started on Sept. 1 and this is called Meteorological Fall which will last from September though November. 

On a little side note, Fairbanks Alaska is losing around six minutes a day of sunlight right now, where we are only losing about two minutes a day, so it could be worse here! 

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lee kellogg September 21, 2012 at 08:13 PM
<BTW, the Arctic sea ice levels stopped shrinking and began growing again on Monday. But the level it's at right now is the lowest it's been since we started tracking this measurement by satellite in 1979.> And that has to do with fall in what way? Apolitical on this blog only?
North Georgia Weather September 21, 2012 at 08:18 PM
Just a passing informative comment Lee. I should have known you'd want to turn it into a pi$$ing contest. You're very full of yourself.
North Georgia Weather September 21, 2012 at 08:24 PM
Yea... you think?
Dave Ballard September 21, 2012 at 08:49 PM
There are tens of thousands of peer-reviewed studies that question it as well. Why don't you check YOUR politics at the door, and go find them. As per my comment, to NGW, I'm out.
Brian Crawford September 21, 2012 at 09:31 PM
"There are tens of thousands of peer-reviewed studies that question it as well." Yeah...I don't think so Dave but if it helps you sleep better at night, dream on.
R++ One of the Famous Dacula Crew September 21, 2012 at 09:39 PM
But isn’t pi$$ing one valid way to get rid of that “FULL” feeling? (Smiles)
R++ One of the Famous Dacula Crew September 21, 2012 at 09:42 PM
Even earthly weather is now having a problem being bipartisan… But on the plus side, Brians in here now so the post count will go way up!
Brian Crawford September 21, 2012 at 09:43 PM
For the record, "peer reviewed" means a study published in a scientific journal and reviewed by one's fellow scientists, not paid for by some Tea Party "think tank". Find five that deny the existence of man-made climate change and I'll buy you lunch.
Global Warming September 21, 2012 at 09:44 PM
"But the level it's at right now" ??? Another failure of a government school system!
Michael k September 21, 2012 at 09:47 PM
Dave - A couple of points: You claim there are tens of thousands of peer-reviewed studies that question "it", but you don't reference or link to any peer-reviewed research. Zero. Instead you refer to a web site for a questionable petition with thousands of alleged signers but none that are attributed to actual researchers with actual academic credentials. Zero. It makes me think you don't know what a peer-reviewed study actually is. Finally, if you look at the articles published by the Wikipedia list of scientists who oppose the mainstream assessment of global warming you will see that many of these articles are actually editorials published in periodicals and not peer-reviewed research studies. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scientists_opposing_the_mainstream_scientific_assessment_of_global_warming
Rex Smithers September 21, 2012 at 09:49 PM
Not if someone pi$$ed in your cereal
Dave Ballard September 21, 2012 at 10:00 PM
Awww, now free lunch I can't resist. For the record, let's say 1) For every 5 peer-reviewed studies (using your definition) which question that man is the sole, primary, or even a significant reason behind our current period of global temperature rise, which can I can cite in correct bibliographic form (including the journals in which they were published) gets me 1$ worth of lunch at your expense. 2) I'm not allowed to include the hundred or so studies that are cited by the "Review of research literature" listed in the references section at the end of this document: http://www.petitionproject.org/gw_article/Review_Article_HTML.php (You are certainly allowed to vet the list I send you against this one.) And 3) I'll submit my response as a blog post on the Athens Patch, say, no later than 15 OCT 2012. What do you say, Brian?
Chris September 21, 2012 at 10:07 PM
Brian likes to make silly, insignificant comments about the Tea Party every chance he can but never says a thing about the Occupy Wall Street crowd that his side is so proud of. Brian says that Nancy Pelosi is a national treasure and Nancy Pelosi says this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3Bg_AB2pBg Brian, are we going to see you in the Occupy Unmasked movie? I sure hope you are behaving yourself if we do.
C.J. September 21, 2012 at 10:08 PM
"Climate change over the past approx30 years has produced numerous shifts in the distributions and abundances of species1, 2 and has been implicated in one species-level extinction3. Using projections of species' distributions for future climate scenarios, we assess extinction risks for sample regions that cover some 20% of the Earth's terrestrial surface. Exploring three approaches in which the estimated probability of extinction shows a power-law relationship with geographical range size, we predict, on the basis of mid-range climate-warming scenarios for 2050, that 15–37% of species in our sample of regions and taxa will be 'committed to extinction'. When the average of the three methods and two dispersal scenarios is taken, minimal climate-warming scenarios produce lower projections of species committed to extinction (approx18%) than mid-range (approx24%) and maximum-change (approx35%) scenarios. These estimates show the importance of rapid implementation of technologies to decrease greenhouse gas emissions and strategies for carbon sequestration." http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v427/n6970/abs/nature02121.html
C.J. September 21, 2012 at 10:10 PM
There's a lot more where that came from: http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=climate+change&btnG=&hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C11
Brian Crawford September 21, 2012 at 10:18 PM
I made my offer Dave, take it or leave it. Twenty bucks enough lunch money? Sorry I'm no Mitt Romney.
Dave Ballard September 21, 2012 at 10:27 PM
Never feel you need to apologize to me for your circumstances, Brian. $20 or less it is! One blog post coming up...
Michael k September 21, 2012 at 10:28 PM
Thanks to CJ for linking to a great number of research articles that support scientific consensus on global warming primarily resulting from human activity.
Larry Reid September 21, 2012 at 11:16 PM
No Brian. You are absolutely no Romney. Don't be so hard on yourself.
North Georgia Weather September 22, 2012 at 12:47 AM
Guys, if you want really good, well thought out climate discussion,s from VERY knowledgeable people, go here. Spend lots of time reading, there is a lot to absorb http://www.americanwx.com/bb/index.php/forum/18-climate-change/
lee kellogg September 22, 2012 at 11:56 AM
The science that put weather satellites in orbit is obviously to your liking, the science that makes radar possible is too. But the science that clearly indicates the man made components of global climate change isn't for you. Your link is useless. So is your logic. And so are your insults.
North Georgia Weather September 22, 2012 at 01:31 PM
Good thing you don't post there Lee, you'd be banned very quickly. You are insulting many meteorologist, professional forecasters, etc. Just BECAUSE you think you have all the answers, you don't. Just because others disagree with what you believe the reason to be, doesn't mean they are wrong. That is a great link I provided. There are topics that look at all aspects of global warming, from the causes, to present changes, to what will happen down the road. There is no bias on the board about climate. Both sides are there. And this... we all agree the climate is warming, and we know that some component is made made. Why are you so argumentative? Let me ask this question: If the meteorologist using the latest knowledge, with all currently available data, with all of the newest technology available, and all the past records for 100+ years back, still can't get a 3-5 day forecast correct sometimes, then how in the world do you expect everyone to agree on exactly what's happening to our climate and why????? Really? Let me ask you another question Lee, why DON'T you make your own post about global warming? Kristi will get you fixed right up. That way you can get your panties in a wad on your own blog post and not mine.
Tammy Osier September 22, 2012 at 02:06 PM
NGW - I think this explains a lot. When people can argue over the first day of fall, you know you definately can't have a civil discussion with them on politics. LK insults christianity, anything conservative republican and probably kittens if he had the opportunity. I just scroll through anything with his name on it. It is a shame though, that you have to do that. :) On another note - Yea fall!!
North Georgia Weather September 22, 2012 at 04:24 PM
Great day today! A dry cold front should push through later this evening and bring slightly below normal temperatures through the middle of next week. Tomorrow should be great with highs only in the 70's with a nice fall breeze.
Tammy Osier September 22, 2012 at 04:42 PM
I can feel the fall in the air. Back when I was going to school (we didn't start til September), fall was already in the air. One season (of fun and outdoor play without shoes on) was ending and fall represented time to get serious and go to school. Then there was the fall festivalsat night. Great childhood memories.
North Georgia Weather September 22, 2012 at 04:44 PM
There's something about the crisp clear air that feels great. Almost time for a fire in the fire pit!
Sharon Swanepoel September 22, 2012 at 04:53 PM
Ahh, and now we've come full circle and we're back on Fall. Happy Fall, everyone. I'm looking forward to some beautiful weather!
North Georgia Weather September 24, 2012 at 11:27 AM
Wow, chilly this morning! I hit a low of 43.0º F this morning at 6:36 am and it's still 43.4º F 7:25 am. nice way to start fall! Expect to warm up to around 76º F later today and then a slow warm-up through the next several days.
Tommy Hunter September 24, 2012 at 09:42 PM
The Weather Channel has gotten up this morning and decided that all that talk about a wetter and cooler than normal fall/winter and a moderate to strong el nino isn't gonna happen. I really despise these guys and their "forecasting". http://www.weather.com/news/weather-forecast/late-fall-early-winter-outlook-20120924
North Georgia Weather September 25, 2012 at 12:21 AM
I'm not a big fan of the Weather Channel, nor are the vast majority of people that are knowledgeable about the weather. Back when they got started they were actually pretty good though. I tell people to find other sources (like DaculaWeather.com! :-)) for weather. Anyway... my buddy Larry as similar thoughts, here's what he had to say: "I agree that the odds are against a +PDO in DJF. However, I'm still giving it a 1 in 3 chance. (As I've been saying) if we can get a +PDO/-NAO combo together with what I expect to be a weak Nino peak (which we already know followed a Nina), the prospects for a cold winter would be much higher than average. (Actually, even a -PDO/-NAO with a weak Nino following a Nina would give us good prospects...cold on average but not as cold as +PDO/-NAO..but with better snowfall prospects than average)." Nothing has really changed too much.

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